National Carcinoid Foundation

I have carcinoid cancer or carcinoid tumor. I find that talking about my cancer is therapeutic. Also, carcinoid is unusual enough that I hope somebody reading this may decide to go to their doctor and get tested because their symptoms are similar. Many doctors are not familiar with this and some doctors are familiar but don’t understand. My story is not very unusual. Many carcinoid have symptoms that go unexplained for years or they don’t have symptoms but the tumors are discovered by accident during unrelated procedures. The story goes that doctors in medical school are taught that “if you hear hoofs, don’t look for zebras.” In other words, go for the obvious first. We carcinoids say that “if you hear hoofs, look behind you, it might be a zebra.”

More than 5 years ago I developed chronic acid stomach. There was a constant burning in my stomach. Doctors reponded by prescribing Rantidine (Zantac) with antacid tablets as needed.

Four and a half years ago, I had to quit a week long bicycling event after the 1st day (99 miles) because I had a bleeding ulcer. Doctors felt it was from taking ibuprofen, told me not to use it and prescribed omeprasole (Prilosec). The ulcer was cured but the acid stomach returned quickly. By March 2011, I was taking omeprasole and rantidine and antacids.

February 2011, I began experiencing deep chills in the evening and night sweats and low level diarrhea. In April, I had a terrible cough. A chest x-ray was inconclusive so I had a CT scan. The CT scan was suspicious and also revealed two “masses” in my liver. One was tennis ball size.

I was placed in a hospital immediately. They tested for many, many illnesses. The cough turned out to be a viral infection that went away by itself. They drained the liver tumor and tested the fluid many ways. After five days a lab result was finally positive: “consistent with neuroendocrine tumor (NET)”.

What is it? A NET is a growth that affects the parts of the body that produce hormones. It is often malignant and can produce hormones itself and cause serious illness.

On May 6, 2011 had a needle biopsy of the tumor and was told that I had carcinoid tumor also called carcinoid cancer.

What is that? Carcinoid tumor is a neuroendocrine tumor often found in the midgut, that may look more benign but produce seratonin and other hormones that will lead to symptoms called carcinoid syndrome. They are often not benign but metastasize to other organs most commonly the liver. Typically they grow very slowly and are found by accident. It is not curable. Generally, it keeps generating new tumors forever.

May 10, 2011 blood tests: seratonin 8 times higher than max health range, chromogranin A almost 3 times higher than normal range, gastrin 25% higher than max. Dr. tells me the gastrin tells the stomach to generate acid and is almost certain to be the reason for my gastic problems including ulcer. The chills and night sweats and diarrhea are likely part of the syndrome.

June 1-2, 2011: Had an octreoscan which specifically may pinpoint all the tumors. It did show six tumors in the liver but did not locate the primary in the intenstines.

June 8, 2011: Started 14 days of self-injection of octreotide 3 times a day. These two weeks establish that I am not allergic and that my condition improves. Symptoms get much less noticeable and I fell better overall. The octreotide counteracts the hormones manufactured by the tumors and in some cases can stop tumor growth or shrink the tumors.

June 22, 2011: Received first injection of Sandostatin LAR 30 mg. This is a long lasting version of the octreotide mentioned above. It is given as an injection into the buttocks, usually every 4 weeks. The frequency can be changed. A major side effect is that over 50% of patients who use it for more than a year develop gallstones and/or gall bladder sludge. Since I will likely use it for the rest of my life, I can look forward to that. Surgeons who remove carcinoid tumors will sometimes remove the gall bladder as well because of that side effect. On the plus side, it seems effective in reducing the symptoms.

June 26, 2011: Colonoscopy and endoscopy to try to locate the primary tumor in the intestines. Nothing found. I am told that the primary could be less than a centimeter long and very hard to find.

July 25, 2011: Next injection of Sandostatin, increased dosage to LAR 40 because I was still experiencing symptoms in last week of cycle.

August 10, 2011: Had a treatment called chemoembolization in which a catheter is run up to the liver thru an artery and chemo (in this case adriamycin) is put into the liver and then a blocking agent is used to stop up the artery so that the tumors get hit by chemo and they do not get oxygen thru the blood. The procedure lasts over an hour. Even though the team took all the standard precautions that are used to prevent a carcinoid crisis, I had a crisis. My blood pressure dropped very low and my pulse dropped to 30. I spent the night in intensive care and was discharged the next day.

For over 3 weeks, I had pain and gastric problems and dizziness. When that finished I started feeling much better!

The acid stomach that had been with me for 5 years was not there by the end of September! By December, I quit taking omeprazole entirely. The chills and night sweats were reduced, but still occurred during the 4th and 1st week of the injection period. They also occurred when I changed my daily routine. In October, we went to Scotland to visit our son and the night sweats were actually quite heavy every night.

November 10, 2011: had a CT scan. The Doctors say there is no visible tumor activity in my liver! This mean the tumor growth has stopped. No wonder I feel better. I will probably need CT scans every 3 months to make sure no new tumors have popped up and the old ones have not started to grow again.

It is now February 2012 and the sweats and chills are still occurring to some extent between injections. We are going to try injections every 3 weeks.

February 13, 2012: I had a CT scan and the results doctors tell me that the largest tumor is shrinking, there is no activity and no new lesions in my liver. This means no surgery should be needed at this time.

February 29, 2012: Met with surgeon. Contrary to my statement above, he thinks surgery may be needed. The largest tumor in the liver is 6 cm (about 2.4 in). This is his tipping point toward surgery. He is scheduling me for a new octreoscan to try to determine how active the tumor still is. He is planning to discuss the CT scan with radiologists, surgeons and oncologists to get their suggestions of how to proceed.

March 15 & 16, 2012: Had the octreoscan. One result is that we see no new tumors. Waiting to talk to surgeon for further info.

March 20, 2012: For an effective scan last week, I had to wait until today for the sandostatin injection (4 weeks). Interestingly, the chills and sweats just started happening today. However, I am experiencing more random pains in my abdomen. Not bad, but more often, in more places and sometimes slightly more uncomfortable.

March 23, 2012: after discussions we decided to do nothing for the next few months and then revisit.

April 17, 2012: Diagnosed with atrial fibrillation by oncologist. Could be related to Sandostatin or carcinoid.

May 18, 2012: Cardiologist confirms atrial fibrillation (afib). He does not think it is related to Sandostatin or carcinoid. He thinks that my lightheaded and/or winded episodes are due to afib, not carcinoid.  Treatment to be determined.

May 29, 2012: Had CT Scan a week ago. My oncologist says the main liver tumor has shrunken slightly, the others are stable and no new lesions are visible! Good news.

July 2, 2012: Having worn a heart monitor for two weeks, I met with a new cardiologist, a specialist in Cardiac Electrophysiology. We determined to start a heart treatment consisting of a Cardioversion on August 6, 2012 and warfarin anticoagulant.

July 9, 2012: Cardiac stress test inconclusive.  Afib masked any other results.

July 13, 2012: Nuclear cardiac stress test indicates no blockages but perhaps weak pumping action.

July 23, 2012: Echocardiogram shows no problem with pumping function.

August 6, 2012: Cardioversion procedure on my heart for afib.  It appears to work!

August 28, 2012: CT Scan, liver tumors stable and no new lesions visible.

December 18, 2012: Blood Tests and CT Scan indicate still stable.

January 30, 2013: Symptoms recurring.  Blood tests may indicate tumor activity.

February 7, 2013: Symptoms getting worse. Blood tests show increase in seratonin, perhaps upward growth curve. Have seen oncologist, we will schedule another chemoembolization and schedule a visit with an oncologist at University of Colorado, perhaps for clinical trials.

February 21, 2013: Had a bone scan yesterday checking for cancer in bone.  Good news — no cancer.  Bad news — degenerative disk disease and arthritis. Also, met with oncologist University of Colorado Cancer Center for a second opinion.  I believe that he is going to recommend surgery at least for my liver instead of the chemoembo which is planned for March.  My heart problems seem to be a moving target.  Last week perfect EKG, oncologist today finds irregular heart beat and high blood pressure.

March 27, 2013: Met with my surgeon.  He wants a heart ultrasound to make sure that I am healthy enough for “medium/large” surgery.  If he is satisfied, we will go ahead with surgery after Laurie and I return from Scotland in May.

April 5, 2013: Had echo cardiogram and cardiologist says that I am healthy enough for surgery.  Ever onward!

May 2, 2013:  Scheduled surgery for June 25 with a pre-surgery physical June 7.

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33 Responses to “Carcinoid Cancer – My Story”

  • Lois Meyer Dalton says:

    Wow! Seems like you are going through a lot of crap, but I am glad to hear the results seem pretty good. I haven’t listened to your music yet but I am looking forward to it. It has been such a long time since we talked–I think you were on your bike ride the last time I was in Denver (I was impressed!) Good luck with everything, Cy. I love you and wish you a diarrhea free year! Wait, if my wishes come true, I wish your carcinoid cancer away!! I will look forward to the updates–contact me if you have some free time. Hi to Laurie!

  • cy says:

    A blast from the past! Great to hear from you. I will email you separately.

  • Sarah says:

    Love you and pray for you always!

  • Linda Brackett says:

    Great Blog, my journey started in 2007, ongoing, monthly Sandostatin, big doses of laughter. Blessed to feel good most of the time, down is just what it means, music, book or TV. LOVE your music, lots of local music in my city, many friends involved, it is what keeps me going. This huge supply of knowledge, other patients and sharing is new to me, so needed and so appreciative.Love my doctor, could not do this alone.Thanks for taking the time to share.

  • Kenny Murphy says:

    Cy, thanks for sharing your journey. I love your blog and your music. I am happy that everything seems to be going good. I hope we can ride together in the Spring or summer. I always look forward to seeing you on Wednesday nights. You always make me smile. I love your shares. Thanks for the blog and the music. I hope to see you one of these Wednesdays when I can get out of work early. Thanks again

  • Diana says:

    My older brother was diagnosed in 2001 after hospitalization for a small bowel obstruction. I’ve become as educated as I can be about this obscure, complex cancer since he started–and ended–his journey with carcinoid. He passed away June 3, 2008. Will check the box to be notified of follow-up comments. I was hospitalized in early January of this year with overwhelming pain due to a small bowel obstruction which resolved after four days of IV fluids, morphine, and nothing by mouth. In the midst of the maze of testing now. Hoping that this isn’t the start of carcinoid, too. After leaving the hospital, I had nearly a week of severe night sweats–something I’ve never experienced before. So we will see…

  • cy says:

    Diana, So sorry that you are having these troubles. As you know the bowel obstruction is a big signal of the disease. The National Institute of Health I believe is studying the genetic (family) connections for the disease. You or your doctors may find infomation there. They might want your information. I personally know a mother and son who both have the disease. Please see the best experts you can afford. I hope you already realize the carcinoid.org has a list of experts by area.
    If you have not done so, you should check out the Carcinoid listserv on http://www.acor.org

    As a Buddhist would say: “May you have the best possible outcome.”
    Peace and my thoughts go with you.

    • jennifer says:

      Please reply if you and a blood relative has or had a true medical diagnosis of carcinoid cancer. Myself and my aunt…mid gut. (biopsy, path report, death certificate stating carcinoid) Thank You.

  • Diana says:

    Thank you for your good wishes. And the same to you, Cy. My beloved brother and I tried to figure out where this may have originated in our family. We’re thinking that possibly my grandfather had it–altho seemingly healthy and robust (he was an Italian immigrant) he passed away at age 53 from an enlarged heart. It may have been that he had carcinoid and it affected his valves. I will definitely check out the NIH studies. Yours is the first post I’ve read that mentions the night sweats. When the ER doctor came in and told me I had a small bowel obstruction, I was stunned–and immediately thought of my brother…

    Thanks for your blog. I’ve learned a lot already that I didn’t know.

    All good things,
    Diana

    • cy says:

      I have seen nights sweats mentioned a few times but only in passing. I have seen that sweats are sometimes associated with other cancers when they are active. No one has explained them to me.

      Thanks for the kind words,
      Cy

  • jennifer says:

    I am a patient of the NIH study “History of Familial Mid Gut Carcinoid Cancer” The criteria is having “TWO OR MORE BLOOD RELATIVES WITH THE PROVEN MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS OF CARCINOID CANCER”…. This will then tell you to move further and contact NIH for the genetic testings and seek the wonderful scans they have available. You must be a clinical fit in order to participate in order to add to NIH data. :)
    Jen

    • Diana says:

      Jen, my brother was diagnosed and treated at H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Florida in 2001. He passed away in 2008. His death certificate states cause of death as “metastatic carcinoid tumor.” I’m currently being evaluated for a small bowel obstruction which occurred January 7, 2013, with continuing pain. They may find nothing, and even if that’s the case, who knows? They didn’t believe my brother had cancer at first, either…

      • jennifer says:

        Hi Diana, I feel for your pain in the loss of your brother.
        I also live your struggle with this gut pain that can bring you to your knees.
        Have had 3 surgeries in 3 years due to it. Did they perform surgery for the obstruction?
        Scar tissue can sometimes be the culprit.
        I hope you r not carrying the tumors.
        But help at NIH IS out their if U do.
        Let me know either way, please.
        p.s. In the mean time, ask Dr. if a no fiber diet may help you during the evaluating period.

  • Diana says:

    Hi Jennifer–

    No surgery performed for the obstruction, which was located in the small bowel at the ileocecal valve, the same place they discovered my brother’s initial problem; mine began to resolve after five days on IV, nothing by mouth. Then liquid diet for five more days. And yes, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital with the pain. Never had anything like this before, ever. But prior to this, I had a hysterectomy (1978); then ovaries removed (1995); then gallbladder removed (1999). They said scar tissue can cause the bowel to twist, etc. So far, colonoscopy negative; CT enterography negative except for pelvic phleboliths; CgA blood test is within range, altho I understand that usually isn’t positive unless tumors are in the liver; next is MRI. The continuing pain is in the exact spot where the obstruction occurred. So we will see. It is good to know about the NIH study, and thank you for your concern and information. My doctors here have never had a carcinoid patient–even tho they all study this in med school, it’s not something they even considered until I told them about my brother. And diet doesn’t seem to make a difference, at least not yet. Thanks again, Jen, I’ll keep you posted.
    Diana

  • catherine holgate says:

    Thanks for sharing your story. I have been diagnosed with goblet cell carcinoid of the appendix in December 2012. Had appendix and part of my bowel removed so far as undergoing chemo at the moment.
    I just thought I would touch base with you and wish you all the best.
    Kind regards,
    Cathi..x

  • Cheryl says:

    I was diagnosed with a carcinoid tumor in my right lung in March of 1999; I had the middle and lower lobe of my right lung removed 2 weeks later. I recovered after about 4 months, but as a result of the operation I now have intercostal neuralgia. My doctor has oscillated giving me CT scans and X-Rays every year from 1999. Up until recently, I have had no symptoms. However, over the last few months I have been having bouts of severe night sweats and occasional chills. Some nights are worse than others, but I am sweating pretty much every night. I also have been coughing and wheezing. I had a hysterectomy 6 years ago and am taking low level hormones, so the sweats are not related to menopause. I have orders for blood and urine tests to check my serotonin levels, but have yet to complete them.

    I have Barrett’s Esophagus and based upon reading your blog I wonder if the two could be related. I am tired all the time and although I eat a pretty restrictive diet have not been able to lose weight. I have been having chest pains, but that could be just be getting older. I think I am kidding myself. Thanks for your blog.
    Cheryl

    • cy says:

      I have read that “having cancer does not mean you won’t have other diseases.”
      The average age for diagnosis of carcinoid is about 65 years old. By then most of us are already noticing the effects of aging. When we have carcinoid we do have to pursue all the tests to make sure that our symptoms are not the cancer.

      May you have the best possible outcome.

  • Deborah gray says:

    I have been suffering with for 17 months now flushing , tachycardia , vomiting sometimes depending on how high heart goes and it’s gone up to 200! Have collapsed befn rushed to hospital.4 times eps indies last 20-30 mins come in cycles 1 a month or a cluster of lots in 2 days sometime loose bowels after episode but feel
    Like been run over by a truck when I gave episode in bed afterwards for 1 – 2 days . Lost 2.5 stone in 4 months night sweats etc had carcanoid cga and pheo test 8 months ago when 1 st started having them all clear and because if that drs won’t re- test keep saying its a test that if you have it you do or you don’t in the mean time I’m feeling rubbish look a tomato with the flushing and fed up as the episodes are evil ! Any advise oh had the diagnosis IBs 5 years ago as really suffering :-(

  • cy says:

    Deborah,
    I would think that you should see different doctors.
    http://www.carcinoid.org has a “Find a doctor” section that tells you who actually knows this disease: http://www.carcinoid.org/patient/treatment/find-a-doctor

    Also join the ACOR Carcinoid maillist and ask there for advice. This tells how to join: http://www.carcinoid.org/content/acor-carcinoid-e-group-archives-0

    You will find that a number of sufferers have the disease but the blood tests are negative. Seeing an expert in the disease is the best option.

    I wish the best for you.

  • John Liden says:

    Hope your surgery is successful. You certainly have had some tough times.
    hang in there….don’t sell your bike just yet :-)

    • cy says:

      Thanks John,
      Long time since we rode together. Last Friday I rode 20 miles around Cherry Creek Reservoir. I’m slower but still capable of doing it.

      I hope you are still riding and having fun!

      Cy

  • Cynthia says:

    Thanks for sharing your story. I too am a Carcinoid Cancer survivor/fighter. I was dx in Oct 2009 and had surgery Feb 2010. I had liver resection, a mass in me sentry removed , and duodenum resection. The primary was finally found during surgery because it did not show up on any scans. I am starting a different chemo in a few days due to growth of liver Tumors which reoccurred 6 months after surgery. Enjoy your trip to Scotland and good luck in your surgery….. We have a group on Facebook called Carcinoid Cafe….if your interested….you’ll meet a lot of people fighting this common battle.

  • Chris says:

    Very inspirational, thank you. I was diagnosed in Oct 2011 and had surgery in Feb 2012 to remove the primary. They tell me the cancer is not curable, so no chemo etc. They have found a new tumour on the surface of the liver, but tell me not to worry about it. Is any one else in a similar situation? Will the new tumour make a difference to life expectancy?

  • cy says:

    Chris, the cancer is considered incurable. As you have found, new tumors can appear even after the primary has been removed.
    Carcinoid experts seem to feel that all tumors should be treated to improve life expectancy and to lengthen “time to progression”. Your doctors should be willing to investigate chemoembolization, ablation and laparoscopic surgery as well as full surgery to deal with the new tumor. If you do not see an expert in carcinoid, I suggest that you consult with one.

    May you have the best possible outcome.

    • Chris says:

      Thanks CY. I am seeing an expert at the PeterMac in Australia. I will discuss this email with him. Good luck and thank you again.

  • Deborah Gray says:

    Please advise I have been ill for 20 months
    Now and been tested etc for carcanoid is it better to do cga test and urine after episode to get accurate results ? Thank you

    • cy says:

      Deborah,
      I am not a doctor, but, I have not read that the timing of the tests relative to carcinoid syndrome episodes has any impact. No doctor has ever advised me about that.

      A couple of months ago, I was negative on the urine test, yet the seratonin blood test was positive high and my symptoms were worsening.

      I am sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time,
      Cy

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